Chris Weidman explains how his solo radio show on SiriusXM’s Fight Nation has fulfilled him as he nears the tail end of his …
[Applause] himself big elbow oh a few toys in deep deep trouble Dean’s gonna stop it [Applause] welcome to UFC October tell me that time video I’ve never been happier podcast dangerous welcome to UFC unfiltered we have to jump right into it thank you Chris for joining us Chris Weidman for the whole show and Matt started by saying I have a on my arm I gotta hear what that is well I mean look at my right shoulder yeah it’s a brown oh I do see that that’s not good you can hardly see it done yeah put on your hey Mr Magoo put on your bifocals I see it I see it yeah that’s bad you know what the kids aren’t going to get the reference Mr Magoo but did you train with that shirt was that shoulder pressure in someone’s bleeding mouth that’s blood stain I I taught this morning Chris Chris weiden first of all what a shitty intro to a former Champion I mean how many times I didn’t defend my belt I don’t care if you don’t call me a champion but Jim Jimmy no Chris is a friend like you’re right former wood middleweight champion great Champion Chris Weidman but we’re friends with Chris and you started off by saying I gotta on my shoulder so before you forgot it because I always get yelled at because Matt has ADD and he says I move on too fast so if I would have said former middleweight champion you would have said Jimmy my add like there’s no winning so I had to go right to you well the good thing is we all have 80 days so it’s all right we all have the same disability awesome Chris and I missed I miss it yeah I know I know I moved down south I can’t believe it that’s why I got a Southern accent now and you know what it is you know what’s funny Chris I just saw this morning I just seen what should I say I took a nap between I do the 7 A.M class and then I take a little nap in my lounge and then I come out and then sometimes people do private lessons so I saw Zach and he was training with uh Sean Cooper from the from the band yeah that’s uh Sunday and raging Ally aquinta oh yeah he was there we were talking about I don’t want to get you a little peanut butter and jelly but we were talking about going out with all the guys and going to maybe Eddie’s I don’t want to make you jealous because I know you can’t go no I’ll come maybe I’ll come in when are you guys doing that very soon it’s happening but I was happy to see him today and hold on Jimmy doesn’t even know that you competed overseas in grappling did you notice of course I knew that I’m sorry Jenny he’s gonna pretend like you knew it if he didn’t I but yeah you’re right but I did know it um and I’m happy you were able to after the surgeries I mean we wanted to ask you how you were doing and how it felt it felt good man it felt good to be back uh you know to be in front of a crowd and be able to compete and you know grapple and even though it’s not fighting you know you still get the nerves you still get like you know you either cut a little weight you know so it almost felt like a fight so it was a good opportunity opportunity for me to jump in back into before I get into a fight wow because my leg is still I’m still working with uh working through some things in my leg and uh to give myself a little bit more time to recover I I thought you know jump in a grappling event and uh start with that it was good it really felt good to be back in there get those nerves again and I’m really excited to come you know get back into a fight now after Anderson broke his leg like I I wondered how long it takes to get to where you can just throw a kick like without thinking and what do you think for that like when you be able just to react the way you need to react without that being there somehow I’ll tell you in sparring I’m completely fine I don’t I don’t let it bother me I kicked fine um but again I haven’t been in a fight yet so uh I’m sure I’m gonna be picking my case a little bit more carefully yeah you know you know Finding you know that real meaty spot on someone’s leg before I kick yeah and uh if there’s a chance of a of a a check going on I will make sure I try to go the other way on that yeah but for me my biggest issue is not the kicking thing right now like still getting up on my toes and like pushing off I still because I had a bunch of issues like I had you know a surgery I’ve had a bunch of surgeries ESPN’s doing a documentary on it so I’m not allowed to say uh too much because they they’re telling us you know they’re supposed to tell the story sure um but I had you know been dealing with a lot of stuff and one of the things that bothers me um is when I’m up on my toes and like really like pushing off and moving and they just think like another couple months and I’ll be good with that great now sometimes these people say oh I broke the leg but they’ll say now it’s and this it’ll never break like that again because it’s stronger and yada yada is this one of those cases or like where you’re like all right I got like a steal what is going on with your leg I mean what is going on in there like the shin because it was horrific like what not like what is going on in that leg now is it stronger weaker apparently what’s going on yeah I got a titanium rod through the middle of my shin bone you know right through the whole you know from the top of my knee all the way down to the low you know low part of my ankle to you know the bottom of the tibia and so I think uh on paper I think I’m like pretty good like I don’t think there’s for me to break my bone and then through the rod I don’t think that’s gonna happen a compound fracture is not going to be happening um but you know what my goal is to kick as hard as I possibly can so maybe it does happen I just wanted to fight divide to find the odds imagine that it might be healthy no no but listen you have a titanium you like Wolverine like you have a titanium rod in there is that like even more dangerous because you hit me hey I got a titanium knee I’ll do a Chris Wyman knee destruction not you destructing your name like that they kicking titanium I think I’ll be fine bro I mean I’ve seen both sides of this thing isn’t that crazy I was the guy that had the titanium knee that people would ask me to take pictures they want to kick me your what are your bones made out of like it’s crazy and then I know uh the dense bone guy and then next thing I know it I’m freaking the guy with the fragile bones and they tell you to drink milk yeah like what the hell is wrong did he reach out to you after that as someone who had been through it as yes so yeah he was actually great uh he was great to talk to I actually had him on my podcast and we spoke about the whole thing he was my first guest on my oh nice when I started uh which was I don’t know maybe a month after I broke my leg and uh it was like you know we had you know Matt knows but when we were we fought you know we had like you know you’re going to war like I didn’t really like care for him like I’ve respected him as a fighter but like there were some things that happened backstage and stuff like that where I wasn’t gonna be his friend you know but uh after I broke my leg you know I reached out to him and he was awesome and uh now I now I’m like friendly with him and I got a lot of respect for him like never before I feel like just because the way he handled with uh meat breaking my leg and how awesome he was with uh all of his advice and stuff that he gave me um yeah well that has put us out there I’m not a conspiracy guy but maybe just maybe he’s so nice because he had a voodoo doll and that’s some Amazon Voodoo jungle and he put a Buddha he got that voodoo doll and he got the wagon and he said you Chris Weidman you’re right now I don’t know Jimmy I don’t know where I’m I will say this though when I when my leg broke I kick your Royal hole and I I fall back my leg’s not there anymore which I didn’t realize because I thought I was like man there’s no way your rival hole takes any more of those kicks as I go down the first time I spotted my leg with my eyes the first thing I thought that went through my mind was this is my leg that’s that’s exactly what Anderson Silva’s like look like this is this is weird how is that my leg this is this is crazy it’s the only time I’ve really seen it was with Anderson Silva so all of a sudden it’s my leg in there I’m like it was mind effing you know it was crazy when you feel it Chris I know it’s excruciating but do you go into shock like do you feel the impact of it immediately or or do you kind of go into shock you know I honestly wish shock kicked I I had intense pain oh I don’t know if it was because so the one as soon as I broke my leg and I saw it I go holy crap I saw the bones and everything I go wow I just remembered Anderson’s still screaming in pain like someone was murdering him and I go I know this is gonna suck and here it comes and as soon as I thought that boom the pain kicked in and I go I’m I was just begging people please you know then now they’re moving my leg around they’re trying to hold into places to get me on a stretcher and all this crap and the you know the bones are moving around and uh the pain I I can’t even explain the pain the pain was the worst thing I could ever imagine and uh what were you saying please asking them what yeah well two things I kept I kept begging them to give me pain pills give me something quick put me to sleep put me like get me on painkillers like knock me out I cannot deal with this this is not meant for human beings to deal with and uh yeah Jesus Jimmy my little Jimmy little fainted just been not if it happened to him if he was like nearby and seen that I think he would have painted well I saw I was standing it’s funny I was at the the fight with Anderson and I watched as they were bringing him by on the stretcher I was right there and that in the first row so he came by me and what I remember about him was him just going like almost like trying to breathe to stay uh conscious uh or or just to to not scream I felt like he was almost trying to not scream as well um but yeah he you could tell he was in agony um by the way when did you get knocked out like when did the pills like when did they finally give you pain management so we had a way for the surgeon for the next day so once I got to the hospital they gave me crazy amount of like morphine all this oh okay okay but they didn’t but it didn’t help at all I’m still screaming in pain please give me some just put me to sleep please like you know put me out and they they put me out like they put me in a sedative sleep I guess to because the bones came out of the skin did they really that didn’t happen with Anderson Silva so yeah the bones came through the skin and stuff so they had to they were worried about infection so they had to clean it up and reset it and everything before they do the surgery and so they put me to sleep like and it’s a date of sleep while they washed it out and put the bones back in the skin and then I woke back up and then I had to wait all all the way to the next morning and crazy pain uh until they finally uh did the surgery and put me to sleep and all that right and the morphine didn’t do anything Morphin did nothing they gave me that they gave me the max amount they’re legally allowed to give somebody a morphine isn’t there something they can give you to like not an epidural but something like that that could knock you out below the waist well yes but they wouldn’t do that I there’s a reason why you don’t do that you know at that time before surgery I guess you have to wait till you’re going to surgery that’s why I asked you can’t give me a block you know like a nerve block so I don’t feel my legs they wouldn’t do that so I had to wait to that next morning I remember uh Dana White came to the hospital which was very nice of him also sent me home on a private jet took it back which was awesome um but he comes in and I’m literally crying like a little I don’t I don’t think I’ll ever be able to look at Dana White again because he see me in my worst moment I’m like please Dana I never asked for anything please make sure I have a good doctor look I was they were worried that like my leg didn’t have a pulse you know like my foot didn’t have a pulse I guess at first they’re all you know paranoid they were gonna you know possible amputation and everything and I’m in the middle of a I’m in a random emergency room in Jacksonville Florida you know like what you’re not getting the best doctors you got to get who’s there and so my one thing that Dan was like please just make sure I have a good doctor yeah and he was like he was on it you know but uh it was uh yeah I’m sure he understood looks back later yeah I’m sure he understands hey I hope so amen that’s in the past in the rear view mirror hey Jimmy if I was a comedian I for myself I’d retire that old voodoo doll bit why what was wrong with the voodoo doll baby made no sense stop it Jimmy you’re being no it made perfect sense because if Anderson had to Voodoo Doll first of all he would have used it in between the first and second fights to help himself not against Chris um it never would have happened because it would he would have won the CR he would have won the second fight Anderson if he was if he had a voodoo doll maybe that theories recently got into the voodoo doll world or maybe afterwards and he figured he would try it possible enough for the all right it did not work I disagree you don’t have to retire yes hey this is what I want to bring up sure you back and you felt how does it feel now are you still in pain at night or anything are you like ow or like my no you almost like forgot it happened like I’m I’m good like I’m I’m pretty much there like like I said before it’s just like a little bit when I’m up on my toes and stuff like that I start bouncing I get like a little pain in in the like uh like on the shin and stuff but they’re saying that’s just based on the quad and the cap need to get a Little Bit Stronger still and so when that happens I’ll be good so I’m just doing physical therapy and still working on that and Chris as we were coming into to start the show I heard you and Jake talking briefly and I know you do a podcast as well and you and you said you spoke to Corey sandhagen today and uh that I mean infuriating Split Decision uh it’s really crazy to me and that’s why I love Dana because he’ll call it out but how somebody could see that I mean maybe I’m naive I had it I literally had like 50 45 San Hagen 49-46 maybe on a judge’s scorecard sure but 48-47 if in in favor of uh Marlon Vera I mean that that’s almost like you need to investigate that judge and see if there’s other motives I mean that’s like one of the worst things I’ve ever seen well I think it’s it was absolutely disgusting there was I thought Corey I thought he won 50 45. yeah maybe the third round was a little bit more competitive because he didn’t it was the first time he didn’t get the takedown they were just on their feet so I think maybe you start someone in that in that direction like oh look he’s doing better so you want to like you know your team your team Vera at that point but um still Corey won that fight I think really what vet landed in that third round was a really good calf kick and he hit a like a good left cross or right cross one or the other that landed pretty decent but other than that I still thought San Diego picked him apart oh yeah I think so so striking was uh better than I’ve ever seen it everything he did work but you think that Vera with the Striking would have been the big Advantage for him and he just couldn’t I it was weird to see him that frustrated you know what I mean because marlavier always figures out a way when you see a guy that great just having a bad night all around um you know it’s it’s it’s not common for him he’s saying I’m sorry Matt go ahead no he looked like he was almost mesmerized or like Frozen like he couldn’t get the rhythm of uh yeah and Sam Hagin wrote on his Instagram because I like a certain part of this I’m going to point out but he wrote he wrote um and it really sums it up nicely when you watch the fight he wrote this one felt like I was surfing on the clouds all energies in in me working together moving in One Direction I was watching myself decide and could sense danger like it was heat I like that part so weak to it all I love this sport I like and could sense danger like it was heat oh one second right all right that’s I don’t know it was something very poetic about that and he was in the zone in the moment he that was that was probably one of the best he ever looked I don’t know just you know it looked like you just couldn’t get going at all yeah they they they kept mentioning that he’s a slow starter so and I know his coaches told me between the second and third round Hey listen well I think between the first and second you don’t want to go down O2 right let’s go what are you doing yeah Perillo is on him but even when he did start bringing in his a game Corey was just Corey was just too much for him man his movement the way he switches from Orthodox to South Pole was so fluid and then the fact that he was able to add in wrestling the way he did and heavy grounded pound on top I mean he really showed himself as a a real complete fighter in this fight especially as a guy who we kind of just saw as just a striker a guy in a in a division filled with amazing wrestlers you got obviously you got uh Al aljo marab sahuto so how does a guy like that eventually get to the top but those guys he was able to show that he also has that that he brings to the table the wrestling aspect and he called out marab um and I love that for marab because marab is now they can’t ignore him anymore they have to deal with him because my theory with him is that he’s just he’s just he just he is such an animal with cardio and he’s so hard to beat that nobody wants to deal with him like they just people would rather hope that somebody else beats him and now they have to deal with him so I love seeing him get these high uh these giant name call outs and I think Rob has a bunch of great fights coming up um what do you think does he does he take the fight with uh with Sam Hagan and see what happens with sahudo aljo so me so I actually just spoke to Sam Hagan and I asked him because you know obviously marab is a tough Master for anybody no who wants to face the machine yeah I mean what he just did to Peter Yan is ridiculous I mean 50 45 unbelievable performance 48 takedown attempts didn’t get tired at all um he’s and match-up wise it’s a terrible matchup for Sam Hagen on paper so for him to call him out it was awesome but I talked to him and he said that I asked him why didn’t you call out Sean O’Malley Sean O’Malley’s just sitting there he’s this big pay-per-view draw matchup wise a great matchup for you and they’re just letting him sit there waiting for the title why not call him out he was like honestly because I marab is the tougher fight it’s a really scary fight for me he’s so good and I want to have a championship mines before I become a champion and I want to fight the best guys so I have that experience before I become a champion and I thought that was super respectable you know which you don’t see very often where the like a guy who really just wants the toughest test for himself as opposed to looking for like you know the money fight where it’s an easier fight form Jimmy you heard the call out right I know I read because if you’re reading it it sounds corny but he meant it to be corny oh yes yeah he wrote I’ve got something for you to eat and it did and it doesn’t taste good I ruin it doesn’t taste good it don’t taste good but then he was laughing the whole time yeah he did it silly I like him I like uh yeah and uh I like that he said because a lot of people don’t have this uh take on it he said that what marab and aljo are doing are good for the sport he’s saying that it shows that things are more some things are more important than titles yeah said Hagen gets it he is he does you know what you know what else is interesting though is because marab is sitting out he’s not going to be able to fight he’s not going to fight for the belt when aljo’s the champion and I’ll just said he’s gonna you know beat sahuto then you know he beats um O’Malley then he’ll go up and wait but that could take a long time injuries and stuff like that so from the UFC’s point of view you got a guy like marab who was a problem who if they keep giving murab fights it’s going to be ruining kind of ruining the division it’s going to take that the contenders that they’re trying to build up to eventually fight for the belt he’s he’s just ruining them he’s taking them off the table you give sanhagen moraba and Rob runs right through him but I’m still going for the belt it kills sinhagen and kills and he builds up with that so you saw I don’t know if you scene reason but they were trying to give they’re trying to give Umar the megamedov um I guess wrote on Twitter that they he was offered a fight with murab in May and then marab apparently is injured he’s got a hand injury and uh they said they’ll postpone it for a little bit later down the line maybe like mid-summer so he was proposing that literally the UFC is trying to make him fight Umar who is kind of annoying at this point very dangerous and giving him an opportunity to fight the number one guy in the world jumping from 13 to one which doesn’t happen but and a guy that doesn’t help murabb at all 16. yeah sorry this is the problem with murab sitting out doing the right thing by a friend is at the UFC’s not gonna be like we’re not giving you the top guys we’re going to give you these crazy up-and-comers with with no names that’s a great point I hadn’t thought I’m sorry about that what a good point that was that he wrecks those guys if they’re like marching towards a title and then he’s like a brick wall and he just stops them but he’s not himself fighting for the title then where does it leave the div that’s a great point is that guys like they don’t want O’Malley with Murad they don’t want him anywhere near marab because that’s a very tough fight for omal he’s a tough fight for anybody and he could marob can I think beat anybody in that division so you’re right any any build up to a great fight that they have you know he’s just basically throwing cold water on it uh by beating these guys it’s a great Point yeah and then it really comfortable I heard someone I don’t remember honestly I’m not that I’ve been I’m trying to keep it you know keep it quiet but someone had told me I think maybe Sean Shelby or something said something to this effect of really with this situation just like what what do they do were they I mean they’re not in this position very often where a guy who’s ranked number one in the world doesn’t want to fight for the belt and so then he’s faced with fighting these other guys like what do you do with them I think you we’re worrying about it prematurely people got fights to happen and uh if he fights Sam Hagen which he said he’d fight anywhere anytime in response to the Sam Higgins uh call out and aljo’s got a fight them both win their fights then we start worrying about man these are they’re fighting Savages and you know I think we all could be worried about you know let’s I mean I want the obviously they both wait that’s a problem we want to have so yeah and also you know what Matt’s funny sanhagen uh lost very very quickly to aljo so there’s really it’ll be a hard sell to make that rematch to sell like you know I mean that’s that’s not an easy fight to sell because aljo beat him so quickly the first time they fought so maybe San Hagan wants to have another fight and just hope that somebody takes out aljo so there’s a new Champion uh and another matchup for him that uh that looks good sorry but I mean that’s maybe what he’s hoping for how dare you Jimmy I said it the first time I tried to slip it in there now I’m yelling it Sandy you’re gonna hear that and say you little no he knows I’m right no it’s a hard fight to sell not that he can’t win it it’s a hard fight to sell this is the thing Saturday again I guarantee say that again wants Al Joe to have that belt when he gets to it because if he well if he gets Pastor Rob and whatnot because he’s going to show he wants to show that he’s the best he’s showing that now by trying to fight marab instead of sugar Sean okay no you’re thinking oh an easier fight no no no no no no I didn’t say that he’s not afraid to fight him comment look at Bala Muhammad what he’s done since he fought him look what he’s done from Frank no offense I Love Frankie some of these highlights some of these fights even the Peter Young fight was close as oh no PJ who’d he fighting yeah he lost to both those guys yeah and both of them were very close very no no but I’m not saying he doesn’t want to fight him what I’m saying is he might be looking at it like it’s gonna be hard for me to get this fight made kind of like Bala Muhammad Leon Edwards because whoever we had on made a great point about that first round Leon was winning it’s that’s why balal is not getting this shot even though he’s deserving of a shot it’s a harder fight to sell because they’ve already tangled up and it didn’t look very competitive well I like to tell you you’re like should the person we had on made a great point I made that point I thought that was our uh I thought that was our guess all right you know the point you know I’m right then what’s that so that’s right then you see what I’m saying I absolutely disagree because I’m thinking he’s shown so much since he portal Joe he’s gonna be like look I’m not saying it’s a fluke but that’s not the way that shit’s going anybody that knows MMA knows that that’s not gonna that’s not gonna happen nine or ten times and yeah to be honest be honest to you I feel aljo his one skill kind of Trumps the well-roundedness of Corey I think it’s kind of have them because he’s that good in that one area you know what I mean so well I don’t think they’ll never that fight based on what we’re hearing so far will never happen because Al Joe if he wins he’s fighting Sean O’Malley end of 2023 and then he’s going up away class if he happens to lose sanhagen that I guess that’s the only way it happens really is if aljo loses right that’s so he gets a better shot a faster maybe shot at the Bell again I don’t think he’s I think he would love to have that fight back he would probably love to fight aljo but again the UFC makes the fights that they think are going to sell and they’re giving it to uh to uh to Cody instead of Bilal Muhammad and I think there’s a reason for that I think they just want to fight that they can that’s completely tickets yeah he’s he’s a big pay-per-view drawer man huge he’s been out for was almost two years over two years stay super quiet the whole Mass develop thing is going on but they’re bringing him back for a title shot and Muhammad’s been doing everything you would think on paper right you know he’s talking on Twitter non-stop I mean I see him all over the place on Instagram winning fights winning fights which is the most important and uh still he gets trumped by Kobe Covington you know what it is yeah I think you’re right because people uh like Bala Muhammad and people like Leon Edwards I don’t think there’s any you know but Colby Covington people hate so or they love like Conor so when you have that people will buy like they did with Jake Paul just to see if a guy gets his ass kicked and it doesn’t matter why you buy a pay-per-view if you buy it it costs the same whether you love her hate the guy so I you know obviously there’s a smart move um there’s not a mystery there Jimmy right like we talked about before we’ve seen them in the cage together it wasn’t going billel’s way before the iPhone yeah you were right why do we have to we do really want to see that nothing in that first round made me say yo man I gotta see that again can I like below a lot of course and having much success you know but he’s gotten better since then but I would I don’t even like Colby Covington at all he’s an but is that a five round fight that’s a hard time that’s a hard fight for Leon yeah I think that was a main event yeah yeah it was but that’s a hard fight for Leon man because yeah like Colby Covington as much as I don’t like the guy uh he like marab they use their endurance as a weapon you know so he could keep going for those shots and keep even if they’re failed shots it’s he doesn’t stop so I think he’s gonna be on on Leon’s ass man that’s a rough fight for Leon it really is yes but I want to give some shine before we um and before we go ahead uh before we move on Holly Holm is getting better at winning she’s looking amazing man what she did Diana Santos and the way she um Blended in the Striking with the the takedowns are looking excellent ground and pounds everywhere just everywhere cage the cage wrestling she looked awesome I mean I don’t know man what can you say about Holly Holm no I agree I think she looked great um 41 years old she’s ranked third in the world just I think what’s the girl what’s the other girls rank that she just beat Santos she’s top at least top six or something she number six yep yeah yeah ranks ranked Sixth and um she put her on her complete Dominator and she dominated her not on the way that we would expect that she always does which is like you know using movement and staying away using her boxing and just kind of picking people apart uh she did it with wrestling and with some great ground about she she was able to adjust during that fight because that girl was running in like a madman to try it was a little weird how she was really like jetting forward blitzing forward and Holly Holm switched it up and started using takedowns and did a great job on top and uh I would love to see her in a big fight this next fight I don’t think I don’t think title fight but maybe like a Juliana Pena and if uh if Holly Holmes able to beat her I’d give her the title fight I guess he missed and did you see I I mean obviously comeback of the night it looked like Hagler Hearns that first round of Vergara against uh lasarda the uh the second fight up did you see that fight that uh yes it was on the end it was on the uh prelims the second fight of the prelims and what I wanted to ask you guys is like you you’ve seen guys kind of backing up and just recovering by moving away I don’t know if I’ve ever seen anybody literally running the way uh uh regara was he was almost physically running in the cage I mean he had to because he was about to get knocked out but I and he comes back and he wins the fight which was so it was almost two 10-8 rounds back to back if that if lasarda had held on for that have you ever seen anybody actually running at that speed I don’t think I’ve ever seen that I’ve seen guys back pedal but never like that he was going after I forgot the dude’s name it’s on the tip of my tongue but that dude literally turned his back it was like running around the cage that’s crazy I think when Connor might have did it with uh Nate Diaz I think he might have turned his back and ran who Conor I think Connor might have ran from a little bit okay this was lapse that was right they’re like playing tag that was crazy amazing to come back from head kicks drop with a head kick and comes back and wins I mean that was just an incredible I think what started has not won a fight in the UFC but it doesn’t matter I’d still watch this guy fight every day of the week he was running and as he was running the guy and Daniel uh was doing like spitting kicks and kicking Matt how do you code how do you coach him in that situation you see one of us and we’re in the cage and we start literally running do you say stop you gotta fight don’t don’t run I don’t know man I don’t see a lot of you guys doing that right jump the cage I don’t know but I mean sometimes you just gotta get your wits among you and uh yeah it wasn’t a cow with his thing he didn’t know his legs underneath him because he got hurt and then man the next round he came back it was cool because he was a HomeTown guy so CJ forget fagara that was awesome man well it’s not like boxing where they can just clinch and collect like you know what I mean if that was a boxing match he would have just held on a few times uh and tried to clinch to get to get himself together but you know mma’s just so much harder because it’s not a second you can uh you know there is no break [Music] what did you guys think of Andrea Lee versus Macy Barber did you agree with that decision I don’t know uh based on the the stats and everything I don’t know I got to go with Andrea Lee she got the takedowns she got control she had way more control time and then as far as the stats with the punching and the strikes uh it was very very close to where I would give the control time a little bit the nod yeah I mean I thought she won that I I remember being over being like really wow I thought Andrea Lee won I did I was shocked I remember being in the third round being like all right Macy Bob has gotta do something I mean she’s she’s in the fight but she’s not winning the rounds I mean you’re adding those takedowns and the stand-up was close she wasn’t getting work today and she was Landing also like she would agree and you know if anything made the difference it was to take down the control time I mean let me ask you something I’m sorry to interrupt you Matt I I don’t know it is because I’m looking 2028 28 29 that’s how a split should go but of course there’s a 27 30 in favor of Macy Barber I want to look up can we see if 27 30 is the same judge that went 48-47 because he’s the guy who’s only his fourth fight judging in the UFC he’s a local guy um I forget his name there’s a j-o-j ahead of the second last name I might be wrong about this judge’s last name they might just be he must be a very unqualified MMA judge who’s putting um I don’t know what he’s putting stock in I mean I I can’t even but again maybe that’s not him but can we see who 27 30 was he’s a judge the ref wow so now he’s like now he’s gonna work on that up now instead of his rough wait a minute he gave it 30 I’m really glad he gave it 30 27 in favor of Macy Barber oh big dad like it’s ridiculous wow okay stick to your indecisive rest reffing so does that mean he got kicked out of a as a ref and now he’s a judge no man he should go back to teaching his shoot Fighting Man the everything needs to change in this sport somehow I like the idea of open scoring because I think it puts a little bit more responsibility yeah I mean it’s completely different than anything we’ve ever seen in Combat Sports but I think it puts a little bit more responsibility on those judges you’re going to put a face to the name you’re actually going to know who they are like we know some names we know Dan we know judge Douglas Crosby that’s it but how many of these guys make terrible decisions and we don’t know who they are they have they don’t have to answer for it I feel like there has to be one that has to be I think the open scoring would be good I think it would be good for the fighters to know if they want to lose a round then it’ll also be good for the public to know who who these judges are and what they’re scoring each round and they could have they have to answer for it yeah I think during a fight instead and said oh not a half Brown is over and you’re still bitching about the other round and uh the fight is gonna be like wait I just lost that round how did I lose that right now he’s thinking of that when he’s I don’t know yeah but you’re gonna have to I think you’re gonna have to program your fighters to be like they have to look past it all and but at least they know education you know where you are because you are there either way whole game every you know the score like every sport you know the score it’s just like our sport we don’t really know until the end or boxing yeah any Combat Sports you don’t know until the end both those sports are always a problem right it’s always type of you know some type of controversy going on with their with their score Cleveland you know what I find that very interesting what you know what my activities looks at me Jimmy don’t like when I ask questions that I know the answer to Jimmy Jimmy’s like do you want me to guess you I’m only kidding listen this is what do you find interesting I find interesting that Patty pimplete yeah as a victory over Jared Gordon yet immediately hops on a video after ankle surgery to call out Jared Gordon for a rematch he he doesn’t like that everybody thinks that he lost that fight which everybody does think he did lose that fight and he’s saying it in a way like Jared’s bitching and all this but I think he knows like if he watched that back Patty’s a smart guy and you know you can’t always listen to what somebody says publicly that has to bother him on some level uh when everybody is saying that they think you lost that fight I mean I mean like as a fighter wouldn’t that make you at least think maybe that if all these respected Fighters are saying this maybe I did yeah but he now he’s also trying to say that it’s because the doctors thought it was crazy that his ankle got her in the first round and somehow he was able to push through all three rounds and he didn’t give up as soon as the ankle was injured like it’s an amazing it’s a feat look at you how dare Jared Gordon thinks he actually beat you even though I was truly injured that’s kind of wrong though I mean I think I guess listen whenever you’re like into this Limelight the way he’s like you get thrust into like the the Forefront now you’re supposed to be the next big thing to catch guy you know you’re gonna get dealt with some criticism and I think by him talking like this it’s like hey man and Chris knows dude you know get into that cage sometimes where all of us are up you know you know how many losses I had when I want to be like oh I got [Laughter] I sound silly because everybody’s up but then he goes he goes I said are you mad you think I’m some people are like oh Jared Gordon did so well he only done so well because me ankle was you stupid what I think that’s a mistake he’s making I like oh it’s almost like you’re painting yourself into a corner now where you have to fight this guy again if he would have come up and just said you know what that was a really great fight I have to watch it back I’m happy I got the decision people wouldn’t be harping on it as much I don’t think people would be as upset about it if he had handled it the way blahovich handled the fight uh against uh uh uh uh magnetic alive you know what I mean with humility people like yeah right it happens but I think because he was so cocky about it people like I want to see him fight him again this is my theory and I think I think what he’s doing is probably really smart because think about it the UFC is going to have to give him a bump up and competition after Jared Gordon and he’s not ready for that someone is going to expose him he was exposed against Jared Gordon and you know I love Jared Gordon great guy his his story is amazing but when you look at the top of that division he’s a very small he’s he’s a small guy and he’s not there like he he doesn’t have painted all of them you know a future you know world champion and uh I think it’s a it’s if any uh if you look at that weight class like if any of the fights is probably the most winnable fight for Patty pimblet so why not just stick to this level until you kick a basket yeah interesting point you may be right um which I don’t know if he’s gonna be interested I mean yeah Chris Weidman Channel there you go hey you still play video games bro I play video games uh I’ve actually recently was playing too much video games and so I had to uh delete them off my computer so now I just play them on my phone you like VR wow I know you like VR what have you been playing oh population one you know who I got on there with me it was in my squad oh Edwin my problem oh he loves it oh my god listen I love Edwin but he listen besides anime he’s into these stupid games on his phone where he’s like I go what’s that he was like oh there’s that’s a battle going on and I’m like oh he’s a hundred percent gonna be buttons or anything I know there’s a battle going on how fun is that he said I see things going on as well so I just don’t like it well I got him into the VR and oh he likes the M60 and it reminds me of Roadblock because roadblock and GI Joe was the big black guy and Roblox had the big gun yeah I know you’re anyway ah yeah yeah we play a lot that’s awesome that’s the UFC unfiltered what’s up Jimmy yeah I like playing chess in VR I like VR chess really you sit in the room and there’s like this weird like music playing and uh it plays at different levels too and you can feel your hand moving the pieces yeah I love it something about Ralphie Sarah my father Ralphie and uh he had me at 19 he got my my wow and uh yeah so he had me you know I was a happy little mistake I’m not I’m this Emoji Chris like Anyway listen so you know he was a little immature when I get it bro so like growing up every holiday every every Gathering hit Jimmy I might have told you this before but I’m telling Chris him and my grandfather would sit for hours playing chess sometimes they do like oh I would sit there and watch him be like one day I’m gonna play chess with that they’re playing so my father went to show me one day boom okay you’re gonna go there yeah he’s making the out I I wasn’t kidding I’m sitting there and he walked off he just took a on me on the chessboard walked off never taught me anything I’d go here he’d cut a girl really use his horse and Bishop and sure I never learned how to play chess oh thank you thank you did you want to play Chris I do play well I haven’t been playing recently but I got super into it I will say out of and not the brag but it’s the truth Al Joe and all the guys from the school everybody was playing for a long time and I was the I was the cream of the crap I was the guy that they couldn’t beat oh that’s great I don’t think so I like I like that I like the checkers and the Jenga okay long ago calm down anyway listen wait Chris are you on an app do you play on any app yeah I’m on the chess app which one there’s uh I play chess with friends no I just do the regular chess one but I will say this this is the thing I got so into it that I learned all the stress like not all the strategies but I learned a lot of the strategies that you know the opening phase strategy the closing phase what like all these different different options and uh and it was a lot of memory it was just me memorizing basically things I’m being taught on YouTube or wherever I was watching so I I took probably like six months off and at that time I was good I was legit my ranking was I don’t know like uh 1800 or something that I think is pretty good yeah and um I I took off and then I came back recently and I was like holy crap I forgot everything I forgot all these opening stuff and then now so I’m actually worse than ever right now that’s all right it’s fine I really fell apart yeah I never played like rated games or any of that stuff I just I’ll never be great like I’m an average player but I just love it but I’ll never be even if I was good who cares like like great players were better at the age of seven that I I can be forever so I’ll never do you do Time games is it like quick times or you just go I’ve never played I just play on the thing you know what I mean like I always want to stop in the park I walk by those guys every night in Washington Square um they’re always playing and those homeless guys are good because they play for food and their drink money you sort of been searching for Bobby Fischer you ever see that movie I did I just watched it again to you about Josh waitskin um he’s also a jiu jitsu black belt by the way that guy no way Josh went on yeah the movie was made after that’s right yeah he never became a grand master I don’t think but he did go on to become a jiu jitsu to Black Belt um and he was a great young player what’s Matt thinking right now is the question I was speaking you know who wants to play a game of checking Matt are you saying are you saying Matt this this conversation has been checkmated not good all right [Music] Jim we could play we could I’ll I’ll go on Chess With Friends and we could play okay I’ll get the app you get me I don’t have that app Oh I thought you said you have chest no no I do have chest with oh Chess With Friends I think you meant I’m thinking of um the chest the regular chess app yeah well I mean we’re into that posture we like are you watching anything are you and uh Marie be watching anything together have you watched last of us I see no I’ve watched Creed Three I went to the movie theater to watch Creed Three but CJ that was I uh the Creed 2 was terrible creepy a little bit better okay and I don’t like it that thing sucks no Sylvester Stallone no Sylvester Stallone at all in that movie where is he supposed to be during it he should be because it’s you know Creed’s son and he was supposed to almost be like a like a father figure no I know yeah but what I mean where was he in the movie was he like I think he said he said what I’ve read online is that he didn’t want to be in it because it was too dark oh no no he didn’t want to be on it because there was like uh it was a creative uh like the people own the right they took the rights from him from I think either the rocky franchise or the Creed he never had the rights to move him in the credits for something I didn’t I I was in the movie but I missed on what it said if it said about the people producing it and whatnot exact producer yeah oh he was an executive producer he’s not happy about any of it and he said if the people weren’t involved maybe he’d get back involved but during the movie they didn’t kill him off or nothing what’d they say he was it just never existed they mentioned his name they mentioned like him versus um when he when he fought Apollo they because Apollo gave him a chance and he was like you know uh you know on the dog story and and they kind of made I drew a parallel between him and the Apollo’s uh Creed’s son man and this other actor in there yes I know I’m not a big fan of it but uh the back to the what else with my wife Yellowstone we got through and then 23 in 1880 whatever yeah I watched I watched all the yellow Stones I’m watching this I’m watching the main one now I’m on season two of the Yellowstone yeah we’re digging it we’re digging did you watch 1923 Yeah well yeah I watched that whole thing I love that I so I’m not done with it yet so I’m gonna say nothing I’m not gonna say nothing I watched that and then the part where the sun’s coming from Africa the cut the nephews coming from Africa yeah he was in the Safari and stuff yeah he’s coming back to America and I cannot wait for him to get there that’s kind of where I’m at that’s exciting I know I’m right I’m with you I watched that whole thing and I watched the other one 1823 and that was cool man it was very oh I loved it I thought it was great I like that kind you know what movie you have to see that’s very darkened and and deep and and wild is uh hostiles hostiles hostile awesome is that the one with a uh like kidnapping no not hostile hostiles with Christian Bale look it up producer Batman stop it Jimmy he was Batman hey Batman pastels yeah hostels producer look it up Christian Bale American Psycho give me all you got give me all you got all you got she has a great ass well they really Pacino with that movie they they them with editing out their cocaine thing yeah yeah they were supposed to say he’s on cook hey producer he’s looking up the movie I’m talking about Jake the mighty Ginger oh it’s called hostiles 2017 Western drama film thank you Chris thank you Chris at least I could do sorry Jake I took it down work on your typing no do you like the South Chris are you like you like it down there or do you just it better cost a living and but do you like what you’re happy no I I honestly I love it what I do miss though when I do go back to New York and I don’t realize until I go back is the like just the bust in the bowls I go down to the gym and like everybody busts each other’s balls and it’s like whatever it’s fun it makes it fun so you like breaking the balls and down there you can’t break balls I can’t break balls as much like it like I have a couple friends down here that could bust balls with but not much like it you know it just it gets awkward when I want to bust their balls and I can’t I just have to like talk normal just have normal conversation like oh you don’t realize that like we don’t have normal conversation we always just have to do something to bust each other’s balls I for instance we walk into the school the academy the gym Longo’s taking a that alone that’s 25 minutes worth of material yeah wow where’s it what the do you killing that one guys what the every time we come in here you’re taking a yeah yes finally we have fun with it oh my God well you’re the funniest dude ever like like oh my gosh when I’m with you it’s just non-stoppable non-stop non-stop laughing I know you should are you gonna do stand-up comedy no but she was just in Austin where are you oh yeah but that’s you know yeah I heard oh did you go to Joe Rogan’s uh thing yet the mothership I did yeah it was uh it was it was open I did the first this kill Tony as a podcast it’s funny it’s actually coming out tonight uh kill Tony will be released um I was there with Whitney and Bert Cummings we did the first one from the mothership and Joe was there so I did a spot the night before and he showed me around the club and really it’s it’s really a beautiful Club because it’s it’s everything like for a comedian little that the audience wouldn’t notice that makes our lives easier like it’s just it’s perfectly put together the sound is great the ceilings are low cameras are great if you want to shoot something so as a comic I just I can’t wait to get back there went from the heart too he loves that like yeah and he’s a comic I mean Joe’s a comedian before he’s anything so um you know a lot of people uh know him from other things but I mean I know I’m from stand up first he’s been a stand-up over 30 years is there anything like has it blown it all away is it blown out all these other comedy clubs because I mean he’s put a lot of money probably into it and he knows exactly what he would think would be the best there’s a lot of good ones like you know there’s some really amazing clubs in the country that just have everything right the formula right so Joe’s is on par with all those the thing where Joe’s is even better is again like when you’re backstage and there’s a blue light so you know when the comedian has gotten the light on little things that make your life as a comic much easier and the sound is perfect um it looks like there’s not a bad seat in the house it’s great for specialty podcasts like kill Tony because he can have a band up on this little Riser on the right or you can put seats there uh he pretty much thought of everything um and and the way they uh they make sure that the room is behaved um so yeah it’s it’s uh absolutely one of the best clubs um I’ll do that how do they make sure the room is behaved I I think they just where they know they’re going to get thrown out for around like you know I mean people know that some clubs I believe you have to put your phones in the bag I’m not sure I don’t remember but uh it’s just as iconic you feel like I know nothing shitty is gonna happen here he’s got a lot of security a lot of guys patrolling the room and making sure that nobody’s getting on a line or heckling and it’s just it’s a great Club yeah I was happy for him because you don’t I love Joe and you don’t want it to be a shitty Club so and I assumed it wouldn’t be but actually walking through it and performing at it uh and doing a podcast it’s just it’s unbelievable the energy in there is as good as any room in the country I I have been to too many comedy shows um just because I don’t know why but I recently I went to a Kevin James special it was in uh it was in South Carolina which was awesome it was a smaller Arena it was like 3 000 people it was it was awesome and then I went to Adam Sandler one which was in a like in a like a 13 000 sure person Arena and what a difference like it did like to have and it was long I don’t know how long but it was like you know over an hour and a half or something but he was like playing music and all that stuff but like the Stella sell at a stadium like that I feel like it’s hard hard for comedy to do like as it is like usually it’s like music and it was a little weird like I honestly nothing against Adam but I like the I like the smaller place way better they’re much better to perform in and luckily for me I’ll never achieve that level but if you ever want to go see what it looks like with uh 50 people at 100 open seats so I’ll be happy to get you but it’s one of those things where those are hard Arenas are hard to do there’s a lot of money in them and they’re prestigious for stand up um it’s great to do that many seats uh but yeah I think to perform most guys like Joe’s Club there’s the regular room and there’s a smaller room which looks like I think the belly room at the store much smaller just to work out do open mics comedians can go in there and Chappelle wanted to do the first show in that room it’s just 150 seats or whatever it’s tiny um and Chappelle does Arenas but he wanted to come in and do that room uh specifically because he just wanted to do a set in this small intimate room so there is something about performing in these rooms that are much smaller which The Comedians themselves love you know but to shoot something you probably want to do in a bigger place I agree Hey Wyman when do you when do you think now that you’re back to you when do you think you’re going to be able to fight again when when’s the timeline I think in the summer sometime in the summer I was saying June but I’m thinking maybe International fight week sometime around that time period I’ll be good to go and we’re talking 185. 185 yeah I got down to 210 for this grappling event and uh and my weight’s not flying back up again so I’ll be good I’ll be I’ll be good to make 185 now when you don’t have a fight which you don’t right now what’s a typical day dude what do you do you wake up it’s Monday morning what’d you what are you doing well this morning I got a little workout in I went on the treadmill did uh like a half an hour just run and walk and whatever I was watching a movie Life old school movie and then uh did like you know some air squats and little stuff on the side afterwards some little physical therapy and then I went into my sauna I don’t know for how long I was preoccupied but a long time until I was like suffering and then went to ice bath and uh you were Nicole plunge yes yeah do you have one at home yeah Kevin gave it to me years ago he had so Kevin’s crazy he’ll like Google you know the next best thing all the time and he’ll just get it sent to his house he’s got crazy money so he he was he wanted to do contrast therapy so he bought a a cold tub that also does hot so it’s cold and hot and he bought two of them so he could have one cold and one hot at all times at one point like months later he real he reads something online that maybe it’s not good to go from hot to cold so he was like getting rid of the tub he was like what happened you want it I’m like yes and so I have this filter tub that goes hot and cold but I just keep it at cold and uh now I know it’s a trend but I had it years ago and I love it man I gotta say when I when I do it I feel so much better everything it really helps you it really does so like the the science behind this is pretty cool they said basically like the hormones that you secrete it’s like every performance hormone because you’re basically your body and your brain think you’re dying they think you’re in the middle of Antarctica somewhere and you’re freezing to death and oh crap we got to start we got to survive so it starts secreting all these healthy hormones like testosterone growth hormone you start secreting extra red blood cells to keep yourself alive all the good stuff and then you get out of there and you get to keep that plus when you do the cold it gives you this crazy head high like almost like you just took a monster hit of something really good and it’s completely natural it’s like all these all these hormones being secreted in your brain and the same thing with the heat your body thinks you’re dying and then you get to walk away with all these hormones that were secreted to keep you alive your body is so dumb right because you you think your body will be connected to your eyes which you like we’re getting up we’re in the bathroom we’re not in Antarctica but the body just kind of panics and reacts the way it would react with without even though it knows what you’re doing how long do you have to sit in for so when you have a real cold apparently like two to three minutes is all you need it’s just oh that’s it yeah well after that you’re good I used to do like 10 honestly after like two or three minutes it’s not even hard anymore I have the water running so you keep you don’t have like a thermal protection like you know heat so if you have a tub that you just sit in after like 30 seconds your body creates enough heat to where like there’s a thin layer of warm water around your body because the heat kind of warms it up so it’s important to have the water moving while you’re oh while you’re in there so you keep getting that cold water in your skin um but anyway after like two or three minutes apparently is all you need from the guys I learned from on uh Rogan’s podcast well can I just add that when you feel like you’re gonna die you can’t catch your breath I feel that I’m afraid for my little bird because he might uh his little heart I feel Jimmy he might go in there and when you go to and it’s hard and I just like he might just spill over all right we’ll take him out and they’ll be like like skin to be all like wrinkly bubbly like like like prickly and like uh and it looks like a bird like the like like abandoned by his his uh bird mama and it’ll just be sitting there I don’t Jimmy stay away from the cold no no no cause just like a bird if somebody wants to bring me back they can just puke in my mouth you oh Jimmy I want to protect you listen it’s been an hour wow what are we talking about we talked about everything yeah I have to pack I’m flying in the morning where you going buddy I’m I’m on this Bert Kreischer roast which premieres April 1st on only fans TV so I’m going out to go to the premiere which I never do but I love this this roast was great so but he was on this show yeah Bert’s awesome Chris the great Chris Wineman what do you want to plug man uh my radio show Won’t Back Down radio on SiriusXM every Monday 5 p.m eastern time from five to six um live on SiriusXM channel 156 fight nation and then it’s also if you have a podcast um you could get it it’s one I Won’t Back Down um yeah wherever you get your podcast your step and walk back down what’s it about for the most part and we have people on like today I had Wonder Boy and uh sand Hagen on as guests and then the other parts of the show will just be me spitballing about you know what happened in the week prior with the fights and then what’s coming up in the future you know it’s like I’m a radio show guy I take people in and out of breaks yeah you know it’s uh it’s been fun it’s been a challenge it’s been a fun challenge for me to to do it for sure who’s your co-host Chris do you have a co-host no I’m on my own oh that’s great that’s that’s been the challenge it’s been a really good experience something to throw on the resume but especially in the beginning very very challenging because it’s an hour and a lot of it is a monologue and me me just talking right you don’t realize you know at least for me I didn’t realize how many times I’m saying um and I what am I supposed to say next and it’s all just being you know recorded I’m like this is this is crazy this is really hard yeah that’s the part about having a co-host if you’re doing it on your own is great because you can just kind of you know you’re a fighter so you can talk for an hour about it but if you have somebody with you there’s always two people to talk I would always prefer to do it with like Bill Burgess is podcast alone which is great that he can do that but me I require another person so I started my I’m with you I did the podcast I did my I started my podcast right after I got injured and I always had a guest on it’d be like an hour and a half I was trying to do like almost like a Rogan just bsing about everything uh all different types of people and then Sirius XM brought me on and then it was completely different me on my own a bunch of the segments on me just talking on my own so that was that was difficult but I’m starting to get to the point where I like it but I agree way easier when you have a house oh no doing it solo doing it solo I could see being really fun what oh no sorry I was just I feel your eyes lit up before when you go oh you do it yourself oh that’s fine well listen thank you Chris always good seeing you ma’am yes you too man well Chris I miss you buddy Jimmy I miss you but I know I’ll be seeing you in two days I beat them on his little nose they bop them like that he’s a grown ass man I do that to him what do you want to plug nothing I’m not going to be in the Fat Black Pussycat this Wednesday because I’m in LA but all every Wednesday in uh April you can see me do an hour there and I also have New Jersey uh Bethlehem PA um New Hampshire and Cleveland coming up so go to jimnorton.com if you want to come see me and Chris I’ll talk to you soon buddy all right Matt I’ll see you Wednesday again safe travels Matt great seeing you brother always great seeing you love to the fam yes you too [Music]